Lost and Found – Trojan Loader

Today we have a slightly different Lost and Found as it has to do with not a truck but a front end loader.  It’s doubtful that this loader will ever see the job site again as the motor is missing and the bucket is full of miscellaneous parts.  But, if you don’t pay attention to the missing engine this old unit appears pretty solid.  Trojan loaders were just one of the many products manufactured in Upstate and Western New York that have since faded into history.  It’s possible that this very one was manufactured in the Batavia plant.

Trojan Wheel Loader - Click to Enlarge

Trojan Wheel Loader - Click to Enlarge

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58 Responses to Lost and Found – Trojan Loader

  1. Dan says:

    Looks pretty clean considering its age!

    • Eric says:

      Agree. It has been sitting behind the dealer for a few years now. Make an offer and it could be yours. 😉

      • Dan says:

        haha I’m still saving up for an oshkosh on auctions direct! Hey, I will be in your territory this week, I’m working up north of Syracuse all week. Any suggestions for plows in Oswego/fulton area?

        • Eric says:

          I drove by the City of Oswego barn once and it was huge, tons of old iron moving about. Looked like it was an old factory. Of course, this was years ago but I’m sure there is good stuff still around. It’s not like Oswego can afford to replace anything.

      • Art says:

        What year is it and model ?

      • forest boucher says:

        who owns the machine? i’ m real interested it, I could you the whole front end or whole machine.

        • Dustin Hoefs says:

          I have what I believe to be Trojan 6000. Has big Cummins. Runs good. Needs lift cylinders on loader resealed as they leak. Tires are good. Main seal on motor leaks. But seems to get better more we use it. (It set for awhile before we got it). Asking 12000.00. thanks 308 520 0091

  2. BILL HAMILTON says:

    It just so happens…that I know a “whole-lot” about these machines!!!! For you see….I literally “grew-up” with them!!!!! My Dad…worked for Trojan, for 15 years, 1963 to 75, and was a “field” service manager. He was later promoted to…Product Development Manager. Believe me…”NO ONE” at the Batavia,N.Y. plant….knew these machines….and how to keep ’em running….better than he did!!!!! We actually lived in Batavia, from 1963 to 68. I was driving these machines around the yard at the plant,when I was 12 years old!!!!! There was the 1500,1700,1900,2000,2500,3000,4000,6000,7500,and the 8000. There was also the T-80, an 8000 converted to a “tow-tractor” to pull the AIR-FORCE, C-5 GALAXY cargo-plane, but it lost out to…OSHKOSH. Also…the experimental…6000-“TURBINE”…yes a gas-turbine powered front-end loader….that in my DAD’S own words…..”Couldn’t push a sick-whore off a piss-pot”. Seeing these machines again…bring back many fond memories for me. Hard to believe…that the same plant in Batavia….now produces “wicker furniture!!!!” I guess…”nothing lasts forever”. One thing I can tell ya….in their day….these machines gave Caterpillar….”A RUN FOR THEIR MONEY!!!!!” Bill Hamilton, Tucson, Az.

    • Eric says:

      Thanks for the info Bill! I wonder what ever happened to those gas turbine units.

    • Bill Ettinger says:

      Bill, I to use to work for Trojan from June 1974 till August 1990. I bet your dad’s name is Don. I worked in the R and D lab. My boss was Bob Moore and he used to work for your dad. Thanks, Bill Ettinger

    • tim watrous says:

      bill, i’ve been searching for info on a trojan tractor shovel the i recently acquired. i believe its a lt400. i haven’t been able to find any manuals. ssbtractor sold me one listed as an lt400 but they sent me a 400 manual. the loader has a reo engine swapped in to it. i have driven it but i have no idea what ranges its supposed to have. all the labels are missing except the tag on the torqmatic transmission

    • Troy Shortall says:

      HI Bill,was just reading some posts about older trojan loaders.Had a few questions have a trojan 134 with gas engine was checking trans and tourque but not sure where to check levels and type of oil in them any info would be greatly appreciated thank you.Or if you could point me in right direction it was my dads old loader and i am getting it fired back up he passed a few years ago and time for me to get it going again.thank you

      • Bruce Ward says:

        I have a 134-A Trojan loader that I’m going to refurbish.
        it has a info plate on the side that is very readable that has the information that your looking for I believe.
        I could take a picture of it for you.

    • Stacy says:

      Looking for a secondary hydraulic filter for the 1700 Trojan loader. Have made arrangements to have one built but the plastic spacer that goes in the hydraulic filter has gotten broken Also if you know where to get a part number or the spacer or the filter would be great any help is appreciated

    • Jim says:

      Help i have an old trojan 1955 hercules diesel

    • Bob says:

      I have a tran question for u if u can text me we can talk 315 879 7783

  3. BILL HAMILTON says:

    Hi Eric, with regard to the…TROJAN model 6000-“TURBINE”…..I can tell ya that the….”FIRE-BREATHING-DRAGON”, as it was nick-named….never made it out the experimental lab at Batavia. Truth be told….it was a….”engineering nightmare” from the start. The engine, a revolutionary design by the Ford Motor Company….was a gas-turbine configuration. Designed primarily for stationary generator use….it couldn’t stand -up to the constant pounding and jarring, associated with a front-end loader, and was “prone ” to failure!!!! My DAD told me…. that the each engine,was brought in by Ford, in special “covered trucks” at night!!!! Once installed in the 6000, they couldn’t run it inside on the test-stand, because it one time…..”set the lab roof on fire”, from the exhaust!!!!! Hell, every time they took it to the near-by gravel pit to test it under load conditions….it had to be “towed-back” to the lab, due to “ENGINE-FAILURE!!!!!” When a technician from FORD….asked my DAD about the performance of the “TURBINE” under load conditions….he responded with his….”FAMOUS-PHRASE”….”That Goddamn thing couldn’t push a sick-whore off a piss-pot!!!!!” Forgive me, but that’s a direct-quote. The sales manager at the time, George Bassinett, was ready to put this machine out on the market,at a price of I believe, $180,000 dollars. The problem Eric, was that the engine alone….cost, are you ready? $475,000 dollars!!!!!! Now, ask yourself……who in their right mind….is gonna pay $500,000 dollars, for a turbine powered loader, when they can buy a CAT, 966, or 988….for a hell of a lot less???? To sum it up….the “ill-fated” TROJAN 6000 “TURBINE”, was a “failure”, from the start!!!!! Bill Hamilton, Tucson, Az.

    • Bob Sprague says:

      Bill, if I send you pictures of a Trojan Yale, can you identify it for me and help me get a manual and repairs done? Its the one that looks like eye brows over the lights, small unit with 2 yard bucket, no doors, sliding window to climb in and out

      • Bill Ettinger says:

        Yes I can. Please email me the info.

        • Jeff smart says:

          Bill good to see that you are still up on trojan. I worked for town of batavia highway and we had nothing but good luck with all of our loaders. Does george and swede in pavilion ny still work on these? Oh by the way we went to school together.

  4. BILL HAMILTON says:

    By the way Eric…..It was “my-pleasure” to share my memories of Trojan loaders with ya!!!!! They were well-built machines….ready to take-on CAT, and just about anything you could throw at ’em!!!!!! My fondest memory….is the day we “PARADED” all 14 machines, down Main Street in Batavia, out to the Holiday Inn….for a big sales and promotional show. Talk about a “once in a lifetime” sight….you would have loved it!!!!! 14 machines, from the LM75….to the 6000….in single-file, driven by all the “secretaries” wearing mini-skirts, black panty hose, and….white “thigh-high boots!!!!” Needless to say….”IT WAS AWESOME!!!!!!!” Batavia….hasn’t been the same since!!!! If ya get the chance to get up-close to that machine…or find another Trojan, there’s a good-chance that my DAD’S fingerprints, are “all over it!!!!” And…..if ya look really-close….you might even find some of mine too!!!!! “All The Best”……..Bill Hamilton, Tucson, Az.

    • Jfog says:

      Hey bill…if I forwarded a picture to u could you by any chance tell me a estimate on the year and model. Thanks Jfog

    • Paul Salas says:

      Bill Hamilton,

      Can you help me find a pump for a 1989 Trojan 1500Z

      The loader has a Weser WA-340-3 with the large manifold mounted to it. Aftermarket retrofit is ok too

      Paul sancobg@gmail,com

    • Anders Isaksson says:

      Hi Bill
      I have just buy an Trojan 4000 -77 with 8V71
      Can you help me find oil specs for gearbox and Converter and how to check and fill it ?
      Best regards

  5. Herb T says:

    Is it easy to find parts for these loaders anymore?
    Why did they become discontinued anyway?


    • Eric says:

      I’m not sure on finding the parts but Trojan was a victim of the global economy. I believe the company was purchased by a O&K (German Firm) who eventually closed the company.

  6. terry schmidt says:

    I am looking for a bucket for an old 2000 similar to the one featured in the lost and found. let me know if something is availible. Thanks Terry

  7. lester vogus says:

    what can you tell me about the trojan road tool tractor loader la40 need wheel cylinders for brakes 1 3/8 bore any help

  8. lester vogus says:

    I have an old la 40. Trojan loader or road tool I will sell for right price it runs 4 cylinder flat head Hercules engine ph. 814-678-3846 in pa.

  9. forest boucher says:

    looking for parts for 1980 2000c Trojan wheel hub parts right front spider planetary and other parts

  10. ed says:

    have parts for the machine leave number and name

  11. ed says:

    2000 model parts machine call 607 334-6555

  12. bryan meade says:

    need cable for tilt cylinders on 1984 Trojan 3000c

  13. Chris Colo says:

    I have a Trojan 134A loader with the 1967 UD-282 diesel engine. Looking for new fuel filters and lid seals for the (2) fuel filter canisters. Any input would would be appreciated. Thanks.

    Chris Colo
    Athol, MA
    (978) 815-7830 – cell
    (978) 249-6474 – work

  14. Brad zimmer says:

    Reviving an old thread here but I just acquired a Trojan 154 tractor shovel….is there a 4×4 selector for the rear steer tires??

  15. bill shea at deluxe machine and tool says:

    i worked at trojan for 20 years when they went out of busness i purchesed all parts in building i have 5 buildings full.i sell all ofer us canade mexcio i have copies of all manules i h i knew don ave the prints for most of parts i buy used machines and tear them down for parts i knew don and bill

  16. alan wheeler says:

    I am looking for manuels for a134a trogen loader any one please

  17. Justin Wiegand says:

    Hi guys, I was wondering if anyone could help me out in cross referencing the rear output shaft seal for my 1500Z. The Trojan part number is listed as 6901576 but I can not find anyone who can cross this part number over to a SKF, Timken, National, or any other part number that I can actually purchase. I know I could likely pull the seal and measure to find the replacement but I was hoping to have the new one on hand before I made the repair.

    Also I have a couple of questions that maybe someone with an operators manual (which I do not have) for the loader maybe able to answer.
    1. What is the oil capacity for the transmission?
    2. What should I be running for oil in the transmission? ATF or hydraulic fluid?
    3. Is the temperature gauge located on the dash second from the right between the pressure gauge and hour meter measuring the engine temp, hydraulic fluid temp, or transmission temp?

    If anyone knows the answer to any of my questions your knowledge would be greatly appreciated. I purchased the loader a few months ago for next to nothing from a dairy down the road that had upgraded and left it to sit. I use it mostly to move hay bales around the farm but I really don’t know anything about it. All the dairy knew was that the original motor blew and was replaced in 2012 with a new 4 cylinder Cummins and they projected only putting around 500 hours on it since the swap. Unfortunately the local mechanic that did the work on the machine has since passed away leaving me with a lot of questions and no answers. Thank you again in advance for any information.

  18. Marilyn says:

    I am looking for the operator’s manual for a Trojan Wheel Loader Model 2500. Can anyone share? I need information about the transmission fluids.

  19. Thomas Costigan says:

    Hello does anyone have the number of the guy up in Bativa who has a yard full of Trojan machines or is it gone ?

  20. Brent Black says:

    I have acquired what I believe to be a 1965 trojan road tool LA-40. It has a Hercules flat head 4 cylinder. Still runs and moves. Just completely rewired it. Updated the starter and put a 1 wire gm alternator on it. With tire chains it pushes snow very well here in Minnesota. Bill if you had anywhere to track down info and specs I would love to here about it. Thank You and have a good day.

  21. Paul Salas says:

    Does anyone have a hydraulic pump or a source for a 1989 1500Z ? Need one very badly.

    Another question, what 3 speed power shift was used in the late model 1500Z. Someone (prior owner) thought it was very wise to remove the labels off the transmission. The hydraulic pump mounts on the RT side.


  22. Scott Miller says:

    Does anyone know where the tag should be located on a 4500z transmission? I think something broke that drives the hydraulic pumps. I think it’s a Clark .

  23. On an old school say 1987 3500 series Rubbertired front end loader I just want to make sure that where the air tank compartment is that you have looks like a plastic resovoir that you either put brake fluid in or after reading the German language looks like in English it says that you suppose to put air tank antifreeze is this true ?
    Can I buy the small fuel filter element that sits inside a small glass housing that mounts under the steel hinged compartments that sitcaling the engine which happens to be air cooled ?

  24. I recently changed both fuel filters on a Trojan 3500 series rubber tired loader and also
    Drained some old fuel to get moisture out of tank while running the machine after about 2 hours I have lost power and is now hard to start I have just spotted the small filter inside a glass bowl mounted by the engine can you buy a new filter or should I just clean it out and does it come apart completely?
    This happens to be as I’m sure you know an air cooled motor recently purchased

  25. jim strickland says:

    Hello to all … I recently purchased a 1976 Trojan 2000 wheel loader … ser # 20-1056 … does anyone know where I can purchase a Service Manual for it please

    • tom says:

      Hi Jim,
      i just purchased a trojan 2000 ( i believe )as well . I f possible can you give me a call i have a few different questions about it.
      Where is the serial number, what filters does it take , the brakes are NG
      201 317-3750

  26. Niels says:

    Hello from Denmark, I have an old Yale 2000 with 8 cylinder air cooled Deutz engine, Production year???? Can anyone tell me were these wheel loaders original build with that engine after O&K in Germany took over the Trojan ? I am looking for repair manuals for that maschine and engine, can anyone tell me whe5e I can get these?

  27. steve says:

    i have a 1977 2000 took engine out to replace new converter has lots of new hoses not putting back together if intersted send email

  28. Ron monroe says:

    have 5500 trogan loader wont move runs great oil drained and filled old oil clean help

  29. Paul Malcuria says:

    Hi my company started with a 204a loader then 304, then 3 3000, 4000, 5500, 6000. All did a great job I bought 3500 also great for gravel pit use. Did our own repairs. Been to pavilion, Batavia many many parts runs. Very good company to deal with. Great memories. Thanks

  30. Todd W says:

    I have a 1985 1900Z that I love. Can anyone tell me what type of transmission they had?

    Engine and Hydraulics are powerful from the start. Transmission is fine for 20 second then can barely turn the wheels.

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