FWD in AWD

They don’t come much uglier than this and I mean that in a good way. Brian sends in shots of this 1978 FWD currently for sale outside of Rome, NY. You might have heard that trucks with a setback axle have a better turning radius than their more conventional brothers. Well, I figure this truck must be able to turn on a dime. Literally! 

There is much going on with this old truck. Up front there is some sort of air tank contraption. The Detroit Diesel under the hood belches through an exhaust stack that comes up the passenger side with a muffler sitting on the top of the cab. And of course underneath the truck you will find a massive offset front axle and transfer case the size of a small car.

Brian tells us the truck once belonged to Harry Osborne Building Supplies from the valley area of Syracuse. As mentioned before you can now find it in Rome for the asking price of just 4,500. Pound for pound it’s probably close to a good deal but I’m sure you could haggle them down a few thousand or two.

Is the price right or will the sad trombone sound play? Thanks for grabbing these shots Brian.

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The Former Front Line

It might seem hard to believe but many of the trucks that make up the classic truck shows we so enjoy were once the cream of the crop. The top of the line. The best of the best. They were equipped with the greatest technology of the time and were, in the case of fire trucks, the vehicles we trusted to save us in times of danger.

Today Hugh shares with us some shots of these bygone days. We’ll start with this Brockway tanker seen in North Conway, NH sometime in the 1970’s. Based on door decals it was most likely used for fire protection of the White Mountain National Forest. I love the twin gumballs on the roof. We can only speculate on it’s whereabouts now.

Sticking with the Brockways seen in the 70’s is this tanker from Flemingville, NY. As with the truck above final resting spot is unknown.

Moving a little closer to home for me we have some older Syracuse Fire Department trucks. Here we see the iconic 1965 Seagrave “anniversary series” rescue truck in the ever so popular yellow color adopted by the Syracuse Fire Department sometime in the mid to late 1970’s. At this time this truck was wearing the SR-1 (Spare Rescue) call sign. I’m not sure if that is the proper vernacular so please jump in if I’m wrong. In the back ground we can see the Everson Museum of Art which is stones throw away from Station 1 and the home of this truck. The best I can tell SR-1 is heading south on State Street in this photo. The massive A-Frame on the front of the truck allowed it to be connected to the department’s AWD trucks when necessary to climb the step hills that surround the city, a necessity during the winter months.

The city fire department was long time user of mini pumpers pretty much from the start of the fad to the very end. Here we see one of the original incarnations on a GMC chassis. In theory a mini pumper allows you to have more trucks for less cost than a traditional pumper. Results varied by department. Later mini pumpers for the department were built on the International S-Series and 4900 series chassis. The department has since returned to Ford Super Duty sized squad trucks and traditional pumper/ladder trucks. Again, forgive my fire apparatus ignorance.

Speaking of changing times, the yellow color, along with mini pumpers, has faded into history with the department selecting traditional red for their vehicles. But that yellow hung around for a long time, well into the 2000 on a pair of AWD KME ladder trucks. I almost took a photo of one back in 2010ish but passed for some reason. Oh well! Anyway, here we a see a Pierce TeleSquirt mounted on a Hendrickson chassis. From what I can tell this truck is in front of Station 5 near the corner of Erie Blvd and Geddes Street. Most likely Detroit powered as any good fire truck should be. 

Thanks to Hugh for sharing these great photos. I can never get enough of seeing what my home town looked like back in the day.

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Autocar Mondays – Camp Pendleton

If you saw this truck in person while wearing sun glasses you’d would take them off in a dramatic fashion while uttering the curse word of your choice. At least that’s what I would probably do after taking seeing this 1980 DC-6366 for the first time. Setup for fire fighting duties at Marine super base Camp Pendleton this truck and its twin served for many decades. 

The 2000 gallon capacity water tanks on both trucks were built by Rosco and were equipped with a 50 gpm transfer pumps.

In the early 2000’s the trucks were overhauled and rebuilt by Interpipe, a company based out of Phoenix that specializes in water trucks for heavy construction sites. Current location is unknown but legendary Autocar toughness would dictate these trucks can still be found hard at work.

Thanks to Tom for sending in these great photos. Stop by his website, Emergency Vehicle Response, when you get the chance.

Do you have an Autocar you would like to see featured for Autocar Mondays? Email eric@dailydieseldose.com today!

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At the Dealer – From East to West

Clarence sends in these shots of a three new Mack TerraPros being upfitted for plowing duties at Trius Inc. Destined for the NYC Department of Sanitation these trucks will be ready for the next big storm in the Big Apple. From the pics we can seen onboard calcium chloride tanks wedged between the cab and Hi-Way XT3 multipurpose body. You’ll also notice the trucks have devices on the side to prevent pedestrians and bicycle riders from being run over either through their own ignorance or pain bad luck. Now, here is the million dollar question. Why are the rims green on NYC Sanitation trucks. Has it always just been that way or is there a deeper meaning?

Back here in CNY this sharp looking blue Western Star 4700 was on the lot at Tracey Road Equipment. It’s obvious that Tenco equipment is the gear of choice and it has what I consider to be “euro” style fenders on the rear axle. The single side stack looks pretty cool too.

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Cross Pollination

You’ve probably seen the quikry signs at gift stores with funny sayings like “If it ain’t red leave it in the shed” or “John Deere parking only”, these signs are to let the world know your tractor of choice. They are similar to the Calvin window stickers the depict him  pissing on the Chevy bowite or the Ford blue oval. In other words you get these items when the loved ones in your life have run out of birthday gift ideas. You have an easier time buying gifts if the farmer in your life runs both Deere and International products like those shown below.

I took this photo mostly because I like the looks of the International with its very long and very contoured hood. It reminds me of a Formula1 car in some odd respect. Now clearly this hood that over hangs so dramatically plays some role other than to enclose a big engine. If you know, please share with us the reason.

Now here is another IHC that I know even less about than the one above. It sits abandoned on an old farmstead near Oneida Lake.

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Wagner L60 Logstacker

I’ve always been fascinated by the exaggerated proportions of log stackers. At first glace they seem ungainly and ready to flip over at a moments notice but then you watch as the unload an entire log truck in one pass and you begin to think differently. For reasons unknown I thought this style of machine had faded in favor of traditional front loader designs but I was surprised to learn that log stacker is alive and well.

Did anyone else think the operator had his eyes on the control panel more than the area in front of him while moving? Maybe I’m just being an internet troll. Ignore me.

And if you didn’t get enough here is some B-Roll footage of the L490 at work.

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Front Load Dump Truck

This is odd. It’s a front load dump truck. I can’t say that I have ever seen on in real life. Typically you would find a cabover style truck used in this kind of setup as inevitably debris will fall over the hood. Even stranger is its location in the heart of downtown behind an apartment building. If you look closely you’ll notice an extension cord for the block heater so I’m guessing it has a regular use for someone. My first thought it was it used during renovation of nearby building but how is this better than a dumpster with that small bucket up front? Maybe snow removal? Once again, the small bucket comes throws everything into question. We might just never have a clear answer.

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Autocar Mondays – Autocars of Rockland

We’ve seen some of the Rockland County plow fleet around this before. You might recall some they run a large selection of AWD trucks including  Oshkosh and International Paystars. Not too long ago they ran a selection of Autocar ACL’s as any self respecting garage would. Tom sends in these shots of a ’93 and 98 ACL.

The ACL was a popular plowing truck in many DPW fleets across the northeast and it’s not uncommon to still find a few in active service.

Thanks for sending in these shots Tom.

Do you have an Autocar you would like to see featured on Autocar Mondays? Email eric@dailydieseldose.com today!

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Ground Hogs Days

Ground Hogs Days. It’s a movie. It’s a semi national holiday. It’s the occurrence of similar events again and again. Just the other day I was out enjoying the warm weather and came across yet another pair of still working Fords similar to the ones we saw the week before.

Shawn’s Paving was out and about hauling snirt(Snow that is dirty, often seen by the side of roads and parking lots that have been plowed). In the background is the Institute for Human Performance. Sounds creepy.

I suppose I’ll stop taking pictures of these trucks when people stop running them. Until then we’ll have to enjoy fresh off the farm trucks like this Ford 900. Thinking about it after the fact I should have poked around a little longer to see if there was a green leaker under the hood. It wouldn’t surprise me.

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Still Working – B-Model Mack Pizza Oven

Food trucks are all the rage right now with many vendors content to rock some old FedEx style cube van but for those who need a true attention getter I give you this B-Model complete with wood fired brick pizza oven. I believe that pizza is the superior from of food and I’ll eat it in nearly any style, shape, or concept. And I mean that.  I’m even down with pizza in Bagel Bites form. I do not discriminate. I have to admit that eating wood fired pizza from the back of Mack truck, thus combining two of my favorite things, never crossed my mind and for that I am slightly ashamed. Open Hearth Pizza would be vendor of choice if I lived in Vermont mostly because of this truck. I bet it makes the pizza taste better.

Thanks to Hugh for sending this cool rig along!

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